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The Hackenblog » If there’s a fanboy heaven I hope they get there real soon.

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July 15, 2007

If there’s a fanboy heaven I hope they get there real soon.

Filed under: war, annoyed, comics — Ginger Mayerson @ 12:13 pm

“Can it be that simple? I do not see these characters as real people, but as mutable constructs. Why must portrayals in fiction be tantamount to assault on an entire gender? How can one portrayal contaminate all other portrayals?”
A Cold, Cruel Stabbing of Someone’s Passionate Heartfelt Bloggery, some fanboy, July 12, 2007

I’ll be glad when all the fanboys die and we can get on with a better world. Adapt or die, guys, and I don’t see you assholes adapting.

About representation and why women comics fans might be sick of the sickness in superhero comics, well, let me post here what I wrote to Cheryl Lynn at

“I think you’re right that the feminist comics movement can’t directly address the issues of women of color. I think feminism in comics can address issues that relate to all women, regardless of race, but that might take a while.

“There is some hope, I suppose: characters like the original Ebony and all the African-American characters in Eisner’s original The Spirit are unthinkable today. I doubt that occurred because there were more African-Americans in the industry. I think our society changed and comics went along with it. Eisner also wrote Little Annie Fannie for Playboy, but I don’t see that women have progressed as much from that as African-American representation has progressed from the original Spirit comics.

“If the issues of representation for women of color in modern comics are based on gender more than race, then any progress the feminist comics movement can make should, with reminding, improve things for all women portrayed in comics regardless of race. At least I hope this is true. I don’t have any figures, but mainstream feminism hasn’t done as much for women of color as it has for white women. But misogyny is bad enough, add in racism and you really have a monster on your hands. These two pathologies have been tearing the US apart forever; you’d think we’d make more progress on both of them. Except most hatred is driven by fear, which makes it hard to fight rationally. This is what really bothers me about the fanboys; what are they so afraid of that makes them hate women so much? And to the extent they’re unaware of what’s driving them to take such sick pleasure in certain comics.”

And that’s pretty much were I’m at with the fanboys and their sickness. I don’t even wish them well anymore because they have never wished me well.

It’s a big galaxy, room enough for all of us, except obviously the fanboys, so I’ll be glad when they’re dead. Everyone else, have a nice day.

1 Comment »

  1. Yow!

    I would say you’re being a bit too harsh on fanboys, except…having actually dealt w/the strain of whinily-entitled, belligerent, misogynistic and homophobic fanboy you’re taking about, you’re not, really….

    RE your response to Cheryl Lynn: I’d just like to add that the reason a lot of white women or white gays don’t discuss issues particular to black women is b/c these are issues particular to black women, and thus aren’t grokked by white women or gays. It’s certainly possible for someone NOT of a specific culture to understand or at least empathize with the issues suffered by that specific culture (as a straight white male feminist and gay-rights supporter, I certainly HOPE so, at least!) - but there is a tendency to identify by drawing parallels to experiences you CAN grok. I hope Cheryl doesn’t give up hope since, by identifying black and female issues with ones we comprehend, we’re not ignoring what she’s saying - we’re interpreting it in ways we can grok, in the same way I can comprehend a feminist or gay rights issue.

    At the same time, it WOULD really help on our parts if we didn’t always turn it into “But let me tell you about MY issues!”…

    Tim Liebe

    Comment by Timothy Liebe — July 19, 2007 @ 9:56 am

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